Posted by: James McDonald | October 21, 2008

Wilson Makes It Official

And so do I. I will be voting for Senator McCain for the office of President of the United States.

I know this will not win many friends. But I do not do it to win friends. I agree with Pastor Wilson’s decision because I believe he is right.

Again, I am too busy with Reformation Day activities to post much. But I do hope to post on this issue after our event this weekend.

I do encourage every Christian who reads this blog to prayerfully consider Pastor Wilson’s article. And, even if we end up voting for different men, let us do so united in prayer for America.

I have needed to decide what I am going to do in this Mad Hatter election, and I have needed to give my reasons for it here. We have already discussed many of those reasons back and forth, but I want to give a brief summary of my thoughts now. I have not voted for a Republican presidential candidate for many, many years, and I continue to remain an independent. In past presidential elections, I have voted either for the libertarian candidate, or for the constitution guy, depending. But this year I am going to vote for McCain/Palin. In brief, here is why . . . and why not.

I live in Idaho, and so I do not cast this vote because I think it will in any way contribute to keeping Idaho safe from going Obama. Idaho is going to go heavily for McCain, regardless of what I do. I get a free vote here, and can be as principled as I wanna be. This decision of mine might have an effect if McCain carries some swing state back east by 20 votes, and five of those votes had been influenced by this blog, which is of course not all that likely. So I am not voting this way because of fear or panic. I am voting this way because of how I am reading the narrative, and more on this in a moment. I am voting this way because, given how I see the story, I believe it is the principled thing to do. It is not pragmatism.

And I am also not voting this way because I think that the Republicans have been in any way an example of principled conservative governance. The Republican Party is a shambles, and the more pathetic it gets, the more difficult it is to persuade anybody just how pathetic it is. There are examples beyond my ability to count, but for just one take the fact that the “conservative” candidate is running on public funds, and the thug and commie candidate is privately funded by capitalists.

Before I say how I am reading the story, let me outline how we should evaluate whether this was in fact the correct way to read it or not. If Obama wins, the whole thing will be moot — God is clearly telling us a different story, heavy on the chastisement. America is about to take off our collective shirt, because a rod is for the back of fools.

And let me insert here a quick comment on why principled conservative opposition to the erosion of our civil liberties was so necessary, even though it was so lacking. With a few notable exceptions, conservatives and neo-cons were all about the war on terror, and listening in on phone calls by swarthy guys named Ahmed. But now, Obama, who really is friends with a terrorist named William Ayers, will quite possibly be the guy running the Patriot Act. That particular tool will have been put in his tool box by a conservative talk show host near you. Thanks guys!

If you understand conservative principles, you build your forms of government not knowing the names or the parties of the people who will run it. The Bible is clear that there is nothing wrong with empires per se — both Joseph and Daniel were happy to lend a helping hand. But there is a problem with building an empire to be run by men who do not fear God, and who will serve their idols faithfully. And now, back to our regularly scheduled programming.

So how to test whether this reading of the story was correct or not? If McCain wins the election, my eye will be on one thing only, and that is the future of Roe. If McCain does not pick Supreme Court justices who will be instrumental in reversing Roe, then my reading of this election story was entirely misguided, and I will acknowledge that here. I clearly read the story wrong. But if Roe goes down, as a result of this election, then I believe a lot of other things will tumble with it, and this will constitute a reversal, a political repentance. It will represent, to use an image I used earlier, the arrival of a political Moses, and not your standard Republican Pharaoh in slow motion.

If Roe is reversed, I believe it will have only happened because of the presence of Sarah Palin on the ticket. I grant that it might not happen, even with her there, but this is an evaluation of facts that are currently hiding in the future, and not an abandonment of biblical principle.

I am seeking to be faithful in figuring out what to do in a bizarre election when I believe that both major political parties are under the judgment of God. The Republicans are like the Pharisees and the Democrats are like the Saducees, and did Jesus lean one way or the other? Sure — He said that the Pharisees sat in Moses’ seat, and that to the extent they differed with the Saducees, they were right and the Saducees were wrong. But this did not prevent Him from flaying the hypocrises of the Pharisees, and when Jerusalem went down, it took both Pharisees and Saducees with it.

So then, there we go . . . McCain/Palin in 08. Wahoo.

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Responses

  1. I am sad to see a Christian leader with the influence like you have, voting for such a ticket.

    Aren’t you compromising by voting for a women? I know that you have attempted to answer this question in other posts, but I think it imperative to press this, because as Christians we are held to a high standard. One of the main reasons our country is in such a mess is because Christians have compromised on important issues.

    I do not see how you can be 100% Pro-Life and support a warmonger for president. McCain has stated that he will leave our troops in Iraq & Afghanistan for as long as necessary, even up to 100 years.

    I wish you would consider NOT voting for McCain/Palin and vote for Chuck Baldwin, who is a strong conservative and a Christian pastor. The reason why 3rd party candidates do not usually win is because of folks like yourself who say they cannot win, because of lack of support broadly.

    Isn’t voting for the “lessor of two evils still evil?” I hope that you will take time to read this comparison, and consider the possible implications of your vote. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/166-apples-to-oranges

    Respectfully,
    Abby – a fellow Christian blogger & concerned American.

  2. I have seen so many people against McCain/Palin since McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate. This really has disappointed me.

    I visit your blog from time to time and have to say that its wonderful to hear positive things said about McCain/Palin. I know that so many are not wanting to vote for them because Palin is a woman, but seeing votes taken away from them for this issue alone makes me quite sad. I am in no way a feminist! I just do not want to see Obama in the White House.

    I too want to see a change with Roe vs Wade, and obviously Obama is not the answer for that. Any change he will bring to this country really scares my me and my husband. I will accompany my husband on election day and vote for McCain/Palin as well!

  3. Wahoo, indeed! God bless you for fearing Him more than men. I understand that it’s not a popular decision and that it would actually be easier for you to go where the rest of the crowd goes. Thank you for seeking God in determining who to support, and thank you for reminding us that His direction is more important than the dissertations and opinions of others.

  4. Hi Abby,

    While I respect your right to support Chuck Baldwin, I do not agree with your conclusions. I have spent much time researching this issue. I have answered your points in other blog posts and articles. This is not a vote of compromise – it is a vote of principle. It is not voting for the “lesser of two evils.” As have already mentioned, even Chuck Baldwin is a sinner in need of grace.

    From my study and prayer, John McCain is the best investment for my vote this election year.

    Grace and peace,

  5. I agree with your statement that “McCain is the best investment” of a vote for this election. My husband and I have also been in frequent prayer and discussion over the candidates. Honestly, none of them impress us, but a vote for McCain offers the best chance of keeping our country from being lead by a terrorist associating hate-monger. We’ll be voting for McCain as well (we reached that decision some time ago) and pray that God’s will be done whatever the outcome.

  6. Good article by Wilson. I will vote 3rd party, but I see his(and your) logic in voting this way. Personally, though, I fear that America will suffer God’s judgement no matter who wins the election.

  7. It’s certainly official in my family too!

    If you are going to elect someone to the highest political office in the country, that person ought to have already displayed positive political fruit and experience. If those third party candidates really care so much about reforming the country, why are they trying to skip other political offices and swoop for the Presidency? It makes me wonder if they really understand how government works.

    Oh, it’s easy for them to say what they support…but you really don’t know how any leader will act until they have been thoroughly tested. It’s not as easy to accomplish something in office as it looks! John McCain has certainly been tested, and though he is not perfect (like all of us), he has displayed some positive political fruit.

    Third-party advocates have raked conservative Republicans over the coals far more than they have raked Obama over the coals…or any of the liberal Democrats for that matter. As my father said, any time you are voting for men you are voting for the “lesser of two evils” – that’s just how humans are – sinners! It’s that simple.

    ~Amanda~

  8. Thanks for the post! I plan on seeing you in Indiana next week for your speaking engagement. Looking forward to it.

    Hope to get a picture.

    Take care,
    Amy

  9. If friends stay with us only if we vote for who THEY think we should vote-then are they really friends?
    I am choosing not to vote, but that is my right even though others disagree.

    Love your blog. Stay anchored in Christ.
    Sally

  10. Sarah Palin is a Conservative Christian and has prayed for Gods annointing as VP of the United States of America. When John McCain asked her to be his running mate she and her husband imnmediately went to their Pastor for prayer and guidance. I believe the Lord wants to be merciful to the USA and is giving us an opportunity to elect leaders that will honor Him. We can’t know the heart of every leader but we have to trust God to work in their hearts. Sarah Palin is a willing vessel. We can’t do the work of the Holy Spirit so we must pray for them and pray that God will break the chains of the evil one. We need to be in prayer daily for our country. Have you heard about “TeamSarah.org” ? It is a newly formed coalition of women (many Believers in Christ) across the country that support Sarah Palin and McCain. I participated in the One Million Women TownHall Phone Call today and it was awesome. I venture to say that the panelists are Believers and share our concern for our nation and want Gods blessing. A major portion of the discussion was about overturning Roe vs. Wade. This is a passion for conservative mothers and in order to change it we have to get involved and do something about it. Faith without works is dead. I implore you to vote for McCain/Palin on Nov 4th. As a Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ I believe He is using Sarah Palin to mobilize men and women for His glory and to bring repentence to our great nation. Check out TeamSarah.org if are interested to learn more. Many blessings to you and yours…and God Bless America. Rebecca

  11. When I read your previous post quoting Doug Wilson, I worried then that you were agreeing with him. When he spoke about the appropriateness of Sarah Palin running for office based on the Biblical story of Deborah, he was contradicting his own preaching from the pulpit. He has said that just because something was in the Bible does not make it a normative thing. Women ruling is NOT considered a good thing when taking in the whole counsel of God. “As for My people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them.” (Isaiah 3:12a) The context is that this is a curse.

    Secondly, I have sat and listened in previous years as Doug Wilson preached that we are to vote RIGHTEOUSLY and leave the results up to God. That we are to choose an upright man (note not sinless or perfect but upright as defined Biblically). We are to choose an upright man that meets Biblical criteria for leadership and is seeking to uphold the laws of God and our Constitution (or law of the land). We are to do so even if it means that we suffer loss and terrible consequences for doing it—so preached Pastor Wilson. He used to say that if there were no such man we should withhold our votes so that we could have a clear conscience before God. Has his position changed with this election? Apparently it has, and it begs the question why.

    Understanding that you must make this decision for your household, with respect I offer this caution that you understand why Doug Wilson has so altered his political advice to other Christians since you seem to rely so heavily upon his opinion which you quote so extensively.

  12. This link also helped me better understand why other Christians are making a similar decision.

    http://terrysoapbox.blogspot.com/2008/10/for-your-consideration.html

  13. I appreciate your sharing this summary and pasts posts that led up to this one; they have been very helpful. Looking forward to your upcoming post after this weekend.

  14. Thank you for posting the Wilson article and for being wise, discerning, thoughtful and honest. We agree with you.

    I also agree with Rebecca. Let us all continue to pray diligently for this country and righteous leaders!

  15. Wow, I am greatly disappointed with your post!

    After reading books connected with your family, I thought you were against feminism and encouraged women with young women to stay at home. Voting for Sarah Palin seems very inconsistent. Not to mention the luke-warm, pro-life voting record of McCain!

    With all due respect, I am confused as to why believers will not be courageous and vote for the most godly man running for president?

  16. Unfortunately, those determined to vote 3rd party, while principled, will actually be a vote for Obama.

  17. Hello Allie,

    My position is not inconsistent. I am voting for an outcome rather than a person. I have been detailing this for a couple of months. If you have time, I encourage you to go back and read my posts. Have you reviewed Senator McCain’s record yourself? I have.

    And, for the record, I am against feminism and I do encourage mothers with young children to stay at home. Yet, again, I am not voting for a person, I am voting for an outcome.

    Here’s a great article on this issue.

    http://atgrannyshouse.blogspot.com/2008/10/quadrennial-grannys-house-presidential.html

    Peace,

  18. I wanted to comment on what Mrs. Allie P stated about being confused as to why believers “will not be courageous and vote for the most godly man running for President.” While I believe James McDonald answered perfectly well, I just want her to read my post on my blog. I am not a feminist and can’t stand the anti-life, anti-family, anti-man, anti-God things feminism has come to stand for. I do not believe Sarah Palin is a feminist, and her life is an indictment against those very things.

    Chuck Baldwin may be very godly and righteous, but he could never become President in this election, even if all the Christians voted for him. There are not enough other people in this country who would even give him a second look. A person has to be able to get the non-Christian vote too. But if enough Christians turn from McCain to vote for Baldwin, it will throw the election to Obama, unless enough liberals and independents stand in the gap for you and vote for McCain and keep this country from going under. Why you folks can’t see this, I do not understand. It is utter folly.

  19. At the heart of the issue should be what one sees scripture telling them to do but all too often it seems outside influences seem to trump scripture, this is a general statement and not leveled at any one particular person. I do wish that those that desire McCain to be elected would stop using the faulty logic that a vote for anyone other than McCain is a vote for Obama. A vote for anyone is a vote for that person so if one votes for a third party their vote is for that party’s candidate not Obama.

    As an aside, I have not only checked out McCain’s standards but I have weighed them against his record in the past and find it lacking. It is hard to put aside years of at best a moderate pro-life stance simply because he has voiced possibly more ardent pro-life lingo lately as well as calling a pro-life feminist as a running mate (I guess we should not use the term mate for this duo).

    In all of this my call to those I know has been to make sure they have searched out scripture as the guide for their voting. If that diligent search leads to voting for McCain then so be it but if that search leads to voting for another 3rd party person then so be that as well. I think using tactics to try and sway votes such as seeking to blame a possible Obama presidency on those who voted other than McCain is seeking to lay blame where it is not due.

    If Obama is voted in as president it will be the fault of the nation as a whole due to its slide into socialism, pluralism (I am sure there are other isms that we could mention) and the seeking to gratify self. This is applied to the church as well as we have ( me included) for too long simply allowed a party to use us, Christians, as a voting block and over time we have simply allowed the slide left of the Republican party to happen with no recourse. Thus in every election we simply vote for the “lesser of two evils, or as I have heard it said the “evil of two lesser” when we should be voting for the person that most fears God.

    Personally I will be glad when this is over. I pray that the name calling does not begin no matter the outcome and that we as believers will move from where we are and truly seek change. I am not entirely sure how this happens other than through Christ centered, biblically grounded preaching that reveals the sufficiency of God and his word for all of life. Whomever wins will do so by the sovereign hand of God and I would say that inevitably whichever of the major party candidates that wins we are being disciplined by God for our unfaithfulness and lack of reliance on Him. Let us now plan on being on our knees in prayer for the future and seek today whom it is we will serve, now and in the future.

  20. Hey, I agree wholeheartedly with being on our knees in prayer for this nation, our leaders, our churches, believers, and those who have not come to Christ. Perhaps this will bring on a great awakening. I hope so.

    Just to clarify, I don’t think I or anyone else that I know of is using “faulty logic” when I say that a vote for anyone other than McCain is a vote for Obama. In terms of outcome, it is a logical conclusion. It does not mean that you are voting directly for Obama or that you support him, but it does mean that you are knowingly voting for someone who cannot win against Obama. If that is all you can do in good conscience, that is all you can do.

    I think both Pastor McDonald and Pastor Wilson have done well in explaining the real reasons to vote for McCain. I know that Pastor McDonald has tried over and over to explain McCain’s real positions, and that he is ardently pro-life, contrary to a lot of stuff that circulates. I think that he has shown over and over that his reasons for voting for McCain (as well as mine and a whole host of others) are sound, Scriptural and sensible. Some of the comments from people about being disappointed in Pastor Wilson or Pastor McDonald for voting for McCain, I just wonder, why? It is not a sin to vote for McCain, but they act as though it is. It is not a compromise on Scripture, but again, they seem to think so. I actually think that these men (Pastors Wilson and McDonald), are the ones everyone should be listening to. They see things very clearly, and better than many other godly men. They are the sensible ones, and certainly Pastor Wilson would never vote in a manner contrary to good logic!

    Blessings and peace on all!


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