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		<title>By: James McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>James McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

Stacy and I are still enjoying one another. We will be away for most of next week. I will not be able to do much here for a while. Should I have a few minutes, I will try to give you my perspective on your thoughts and questions. In the interim, know the Lord is at work and that He is in control.

Blessings,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Stacy and I are still enjoying one another. We will be away for most of next week. I will not be able to do much here for a while. Should I have a few minutes, I will try to give you my perspective on your thoughts and questions. In the interim, know the Lord is at work and that He is in control.</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie</title>
		<link>http://familyreformation.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/wilson-on-palin/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. McDonald, 
Thank you for these posts in times like these.  
Blessings to you and your family</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. McDonald,<br />
Thank you for these posts in times like these.<br />
Blessings to you and your family</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://familyreformation.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/wilson-on-palin/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought over Wilson&#039;s second question regarding headship, and in what sphere(s) that headship is required.

His contemporary analogy of the widow who inherited her husband&#039;s estate is not comparable to Palin&#039;s situation.  The key word in his example is &quot;inherits&quot;:  the duties of running the estate was delegated to her by her husband upon his death, so her authority to manage the assets is established under his jurisdiction.  The same can be said for the widow running her husband&#039;s business.

We don&#039;t know how Lydia aquired such a successful business.  It may have been under similar circumstancs as the examples he gave, and it may not have.  But given the societal structure of her culture, it&#039;s highly unlikely that did it without the blessing of a male head of household at some point.

Regardless, Lydia&#039;s circumstance and Palin&#039;s candidacy are not at all comparable.  Unless Wilson wishes to argue that politics is a business?

One on hand, a woman receives the authority from someone jurisdictionally above her, and he instructs her how to conduct business consistent with his good character.

On the other hand, a woman seeks greater authority from those who would be jurisdictionally below her, and she makes decisions for them on how they must conduct their businesses.

It&#039;s upside down, isn&#039;t it?

For now I&#039;ll keep an open mind regarding Deborah.  Her case is less readily understood.

As a side note, it is regrettable that Wilson should use an ethnic name so flippantly and to no purpose.  So many negative stereotypes can be read into that careless use, whether he believes them or not.  Surely we Christians can be more gracious than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought over Wilson&#8217;s second question regarding headship, and in what sphere(s) that headship is required.</p>
<p>His contemporary analogy of the widow who inherited her husband&#8217;s estate is not comparable to Palin&#8217;s situation.  The key word in his example is &#8220;inherits&#8221;:  the duties of running the estate was delegated to her by her husband upon his death, so her authority to manage the assets is established under his jurisdiction.  The same can be said for the widow running her husband&#8217;s business.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know how Lydia aquired such a successful business.  It may have been under similar circumstancs as the examples he gave, and it may not have.  But given the societal structure of her culture, it&#8217;s highly unlikely that did it without the blessing of a male head of household at some point.</p>
<p>Regardless, Lydia&#8217;s circumstance and Palin&#8217;s candidacy are not at all comparable.  Unless Wilson wishes to argue that politics is a business?</p>
<p>One on hand, a woman receives the authority from someone jurisdictionally above her, and he instructs her how to conduct business consistent with his good character.</p>
<p>On the other hand, a woman seeks greater authority from those who would be jurisdictionally below her, and she makes decisions for them on how they must conduct their businesses.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s upside down, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>For now I&#8217;ll keep an open mind regarding Deborah.  Her case is less readily understood.</p>
<p>As a side note, it is regrettable that Wilson should use an ethnic name so flippantly and to no purpose.  So many negative stereotypes can be read into that careless use, whether he believes them or not.  Surely we Christians can be more gracious than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
		<link>http://familyreformation.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/wilson-on-palin/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting perspective, and I&#039;m glad to have read it.  I&#039;ll continue to think through Wilson&#039;s first two points, but his third point addresses a question built on pragmatics and not on principle. 

The Titus biblical principle is that women are admonished to be keepers at home, irrespective of how the children can be sufficiently nourished in their absence.  Palin&#039;s beliefs and example teach, and encourage our youth to believe, that a woman isn&#039;t restricted by this; she may aspire to the great heights of her individualistic calling.

But considering the pragmatics of Wilson&#039;s question:  can she handle both the vice presidency and being a mom at the same time?  A person could reasonably consider her daughter&#039;s teenage pregnancy to be the fruit of her attempt to be governor and mom at the same time.  Wilson warns against expecting a trainwreck.  As a mother of a daughter, and as a sympathizer of the family, I&#039;d say that the train already derailed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting perspective, and I&#8217;m glad to have read it.  I&#8217;ll continue to think through Wilson&#8217;s first two points, but his third point addresses a question built on pragmatics and not on principle. </p>
<p>The Titus biblical principle is that women are admonished to be keepers at home, irrespective of how the children can be sufficiently nourished in their absence.  Palin&#8217;s beliefs and example teach, and encourage our youth to believe, that a woman isn&#8217;t restricted by this; she may aspire to the great heights of her individualistic calling.</p>
<p>But considering the pragmatics of Wilson&#8217;s question:  can she handle both the vice presidency and being a mom at the same time?  A person could reasonably consider her daughter&#8217;s teenage pregnancy to be the fruit of her attempt to be governor and mom at the same time.  Wilson warns against expecting a trainwreck.  As a mother of a daughter, and as a sympathizer of the family, I&#8217;d say that the train already derailed.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://familyreformation.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/wilson-on-palin/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh...I have spent far too much time wondering and worrying about this.  It has been mentally draining on me, but for some reason I can&#039;t let it go. I enjoyed reading your post and the two responses to it.  I am trying to have a Biblically balanced view to all of this, but it just causes my mother heart to cry out.  I&#039;m trying so hard to  check my emotions at the door, but it I can&#039;t seem to.  I keep thinking about the examples where God used women in the Bible. Do we know if these women had small children in the home? 
Most of the example that I can think of where women with small children worked (and I&#039;m not talking CEO work here) worked out of the home alongside their children.  Also, there is that major point that she would be placing herself under another man for most of her day.  I&#039;m just so sad that many keepers at home have embraced this so quickly because she has a large family, a special needs child, and is pro-life.  I read an interesting blog this morning entitled &quot;Just a Little Bit of Feminism&quot; that struck to the heart of things. 

http://vaughnshire.com/2008/09/05/just-a-lil-bit-of-feminism/

Looking forward to reading your views as well as Stacy&#039;s if she so chooses to share them.  It is such a touchy sensitive issue that I have kept most of my thoughts in my head. 

I feel like I&#039;m wasting too much time worrying about this and that I just need to not worry about it and mind my own business, but at the same time I think it is somehow a big mistake that will only serve to further the attack on the family. 
Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh&#8230;I have spent far too much time wondering and worrying about this.  It has been mentally draining on me, but for some reason I can&#8217;t let it go. I enjoyed reading your post and the two responses to it.  I am trying to have a Biblically balanced view to all of this, but it just causes my mother heart to cry out.  I&#8217;m trying so hard to  check my emotions at the door, but it I can&#8217;t seem to.  I keep thinking about the examples where God used women in the Bible. Do we know if these women had small children in the home?<br />
Most of the example that I can think of where women with small children worked (and I&#8217;m not talking CEO work here) worked out of the home alongside their children.  Also, there is that major point that she would be placing herself under another man for most of her day.  I&#8217;m just so sad that many keepers at home have embraced this so quickly because she has a large family, a special needs child, and is pro-life.  I read an interesting blog this morning entitled &#8220;Just a Little Bit of Feminism&#8221; that struck to the heart of things. </p>
<p><a href="http://vaughnshire.com/2008/09/05/just-a-lil-bit-of-feminism/" rel="nofollow">http://vaughnshire.com/2008/09/05/just-a-lil-bit-of-feminism/</a></p>
<p>Looking forward to reading your views as well as Stacy&#8217;s if she so chooses to share them.  It is such a touchy sensitive issue that I have kept most of my thoughts in my head. </p>
<p>I feel like I&#8217;m wasting too much time worrying about this and that I just need to not worry about it and mind my own business, but at the same time I think it is somehow a big mistake that will only serve to further the attack on the family.<br />
Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brandy Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandy Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I forgot to say Happy Honeymooning!!!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I forgot to say Happy Honeymooning!!!  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brandy Lynn</title>
		<link>http://familyreformation.wordpress.com/2008/09/05/wilson-on-palin/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandy Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, I may be ignorant... I probably am.  But, just because I disagree with her choices does NOT mean that I judge her for those choices. I just get nervous any time a woman steps out above a man because I&#039;ve been there, done that, seen the trouble it can cause- and don&#039;t want to go back. I *KNOW* that there are exceptions to the norm.  I don&#039;t discredit Lydia, Deborah, Esther... they were amazing women that God used for His purpose.  (And I believe the Lord uses women for His purpose all the time... just as He uses men...) Yet, to just &quot;assume&quot; that perhaps Palin is &quot;one of those exceptions&quot;... why HER as the exception?  Why not Hilary as the exception? (Not that I believe in a single thing that she represents!!!) What makes it right to &quot;assume&quot; that perhaps Palin is one of those exceptions?  I realize this wasn&#039;t &quot;your&quot; post- but I just don&#039;t understand what the &quot;exception&quot; rule is all about.  And why it is okay to consider that someone may be an exception just because we like her?  (Remember, God used evil men to fulfill His purposes too!)

From what I know of her, I like Sarah Palin. She seems to be an honorable woman- someone I wouldn&#039;t mind being friends with... there&#039;s just &quot;more to it&quot; for me.  I have three special needs children- and I KNOW first hand the work they require.  All three of my children have genetic &quot;syndromes&quot;- each requiring something different, and one has cerebral palsy on top of that.  Maybe she&#039;s super woman, I don&#039;t know--- but I just don&#039;t see how you can be devoted to the great needs of this country while still being 100% there for your family.  I&#039;m not saying she wouldn&#039;t be great in the White House- or that she wouldn&#039;t be great for our country.  In fact, I think she would do great things for our country with the right congress backing her up. But, the fact remains- that she has other responsibilites right now.  If she were running in 20 years... I don&#039;t know that it would be such an issue with as many as it is now.  If I were going to vote for McCain- I wouldn&#039;t change my vote just because of Palin.  Nor would I choose to vote for McCain just because of Palin. (But since I&#039;m still praying through my decision... neither applies right now.) 

The biggest thing that still confuses me is this... there is so much going on about Sarah Palin right now. I realize that McCain and Palin are a &quot;team&quot;- and it is possible that IF something were to happen to McCain, Palin would take over... but really, are we voting for a President, or for a Vice President? The other thing that people seem to miss is that we need a good congress.  So much is going on about the President (which IS a big deal)- but I hope people are not forgetting that their vote for their Senate and House representatives is also very important! I hope that we do not get so wrapped up in &quot;Palin&quot; that we forget the bigger picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I may be ignorant&#8230; I probably am.  But, just because I disagree with her choices does NOT mean that I judge her for those choices. I just get nervous any time a woman steps out above a man because I&#8217;ve been there, done that, seen the trouble it can cause- and don&#8217;t want to go back. I *KNOW* that there are exceptions to the norm.  I don&#8217;t discredit Lydia, Deborah, Esther&#8230; they were amazing women that God used for His purpose.  (And I believe the Lord uses women for His purpose all the time&#8230; just as He uses men&#8230;) Yet, to just &#8220;assume&#8221; that perhaps Palin is &#8220;one of those exceptions&#8221;&#8230; why HER as the exception?  Why not Hilary as the exception? (Not that I believe in a single thing that she represents!!!) What makes it right to &#8220;assume&#8221; that perhaps Palin is one of those exceptions?  I realize this wasn&#8217;t &#8220;your&#8221; post- but I just don&#8217;t understand what the &#8220;exception&#8221; rule is all about.  And why it is okay to consider that someone may be an exception just because we like her?  (Remember, God used evil men to fulfill His purposes too!)</p>
<p>From what I know of her, I like Sarah Palin. She seems to be an honorable woman- someone I wouldn&#8217;t mind being friends with&#8230; there&#8217;s just &#8220;more to it&#8221; for me.  I have three special needs children- and I KNOW first hand the work they require.  All three of my children have genetic &#8220;syndromes&#8221;- each requiring something different, and one has cerebral palsy on top of that.  Maybe she&#8217;s super woman, I don&#8217;t know&#8212; but I just don&#8217;t see how you can be devoted to the great needs of this country while still being 100% there for your family.  I&#8217;m not saying she wouldn&#8217;t be great in the White House- or that she wouldn&#8217;t be great for our country.  In fact, I think she would do great things for our country with the right congress backing her up. But, the fact remains- that she has other responsibilites right now.  If she were running in 20 years&#8230; I don&#8217;t know that it would be such an issue with as many as it is now.  If I were going to vote for McCain- I wouldn&#8217;t change my vote just because of Palin.  Nor would I choose to vote for McCain just because of Palin. (But since I&#8217;m still praying through my decision&#8230; neither applies right now.) </p>
<p>The biggest thing that still confuses me is this&#8230; there is so much going on about Sarah Palin right now. I realize that McCain and Palin are a &#8220;team&#8221;- and it is possible that IF something were to happen to McCain, Palin would take over&#8230; but really, are we voting for a President, or for a Vice President? The other thing that people seem to miss is that we need a good congress.  So much is going on about the President (which IS a big deal)- but I hope people are not forgetting that their vote for their Senate and House representatives is also very important! I hope that we do not get so wrapped up in &#8220;Palin&#8221; that we forget the bigger picture.</p>
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		<title>By: gloria</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear James,

Thank you so much for sharing this post here - and I know these were the words of Mr. Wilson.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this as well.

To be honest I am very deeply saddened by what I am reading on Christian blogs about Mrs. Palin.

As a mother of 10 blessings -- and I know Stacy would agree -- being a mom is a FULL time job! It leaves us great joy and we are also so tired at the end of the day.
I am sure Mrs. Palin has her hands more than full.  I do not advocate leaving children behind and heading off to the work place. 

I also do not advocate &quot;throwing stones&quot; and that is what I believe is happening in the Christian community. I believe many many are throwing stones.

The bible is clear on the role of women - but as was stated above, God has made exceptions. I also love the story of Esther, whose strength and committment to her people and Lord saved a nation.  

It is not the &quot;norm&quot; for women to be in the &quot;front lines&quot; sort of speak ~~ but there is some evidences of this exception found in the bible.

We, as Christians I feel need to be ever so careful with this issue and Mrs. Palin.

We need to be very careful we do not throw the stones.... as the Jews were so eager to do with the woman found in adultery.

Our Lord clearly told us to avoid judging one another. 

We do not know if the Lord has called Mrs. Palin for such a time as this ~~ only the Lord and time will tell.

Until then, it would behoove us as Christians to be careful to use scripture to show that the biblical role of women has been to be a keeper at home and under the headship of her husband. 

I just become concerned when I read so much self righteous remarks coming from those who profess to know the lord and yet throw out His counsel and command to &quot;not judge&quot;.

It is a  very fine line to walk indeed.

God bless you &amp; your lovely family~
gloria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear James,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for sharing this post here &#8211; and I know these were the words of Mr. Wilson.</p>
<p>I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this as well.</p>
<p>To be honest I am very deeply saddened by what I am reading on Christian blogs about Mrs. Palin.</p>
<p>As a mother of 10 blessings &#8212; and I know Stacy would agree &#8212; being a mom is a FULL time job! It leaves us great joy and we are also so tired at the end of the day.<br />
I am sure Mrs. Palin has her hands more than full.  I do not advocate leaving children behind and heading off to the work place. </p>
<p>I also do not advocate &#8220;throwing stones&#8221; and that is what I believe is happening in the Christian community. I believe many many are throwing stones.</p>
<p>The bible is clear on the role of women &#8211; but as was stated above, God has made exceptions. I also love the story of Esther, whose strength and committment to her people and Lord saved a nation.  </p>
<p>It is not the &#8220;norm&#8221; for women to be in the &#8220;front lines&#8221; sort of speak ~~ but there is some evidences of this exception found in the bible.</p>
<p>We, as Christians I feel need to be ever so careful with this issue and Mrs. Palin.</p>
<p>We need to be very careful we do not throw the stones&#8230;. as the Jews were so eager to do with the woman found in adultery.</p>
<p>Our Lord clearly told us to avoid judging one another. </p>
<p>We do not know if the Lord has called Mrs. Palin for such a time as this ~~ only the Lord and time will tell.</p>
<p>Until then, it would behoove us as Christians to be careful to use scripture to show that the biblical role of women has been to be a keeper at home and under the headship of her husband. </p>
<p>I just become concerned when I read so much self righteous remarks coming from those who profess to know the lord and yet throw out His counsel and command to &#8220;not judge&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is a  very fine line to walk indeed.</p>
<p>God bless you &amp; your lovely family~<br />
gloria</p>
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