Believe it or not, Stacy and I are supposed to be on vacation! It is like a second honeymoon of sorts. But, we continue to ponder the events in politics and the impact it has had on the church.
I have two blog posts written on this subject, but I am praying through them before I launch. However, Pastor Doug Wilson wrote a thoughtful summary of the issues and positions today. I would encourage you all to give it a read.
An Epistemological Pileup
All right. As far as I can make out, our debate over Sarah Palin revolves around three distinct issues, all three of which have merged in a highly entertaining and jumbled fashion — a sort of epistemological pile-up.The first is the propriety of voting for a Republican. A large number of us (myself included) have been let down so many times by these people that anything, no matter how good it looks, feels to us like Lucy setting up the football for Charlie Brown one more time. Just one more time. Please?
The second issue is the propriety of voting for a woman to hold civil office, exercising authority over men in that realm. Some argue from the clear biblical teaching on male headship in the family and the equally clear biblical teaching on the requirement for male leadership in the Church, and say that we can extend this restriction into the civil realm. And I believe that we could do this, were it not for the clear scriptural counterexample.
And last, we have the concerns that revolve around the age of Sarah Palin’s children. The idea is that there is no way for her to fulfill her obligations to her family, which are fixed by God, and also fulfill the obligations she would have as vice-president.
Some of those with concerns only have one of these concerns. Some have all three. Some don’t have any. Shake vigorously and discuss. For my purposes here, I want to address them seriatim.
First, it has been well said that Washington contains two parties — the Evil Party and the Stupid Party. And some of us began to suspect a number of years ago that the stupidity of the SP was beginning to look like it was being done on purpose, making it therefore a higher and more nefarious form of evil. The serpent was more subtle than all the beasts of the field.
At the end of the day, this issue is a matter of trust and the believability of individuals. And if someone trusts someone that you cannot bring yourself to trust, then that’s okay. Free country. It would be a moral issue if someone were to say, “Yes, I know these promises are all a sham, but I am going to pretend to believe them anyway.” That is willful blindness. But differences of opinion are not in that category. I can easily see how men of good conscience could differ over whether Ronald Reagan’s campaign promises were trustworthy or not. If you don’t believe it, then don’t. It is the candidate’s job to persuade you, not your job to prove to his satisfaction that he is untrustworthy.
For what it is worth, as I think back over all the votes I have cast in presidential elections from the seventies down to the present, sometimes for Republicans and more recently not, the only person that I know I would vote for again is Ronald Reagan. And this despite the fact that he had a pretty rocky relationship with some of his kids, and on that basis I believe him to have been disqualified to hold office in a local church. The offices are different. I would do this because I agreed with him on the key political issues, and believed that he agreed with me. I can understand why others would not believe him — but I do maintain that I can think this way without being a ninnyhammer.
The idea that women should be excluded from civil office, period, is an exegetical question, and one that I believe that can be settled because of the perspicuity of Scripture.
A curse is pronounced on a people in Isaiah 3:12 that is relevant to this discussion. It is possible that this is not referring to actual women, but to girly men, to effeminate men. To men of arrested development, and a junior high approach to sex. Bill Clinton comes to mind. In other words, the men who rule are being called womanish, or childish. Like calling Ralph Nader matronly.
Like I said, that is possible. But I take it in the more straightforward sense — that a society is under a weight of judgment when it has a dearth of men capable of exercising godly rule. This could happen because the men are all dead, or gone, or they are abdicating wimps. In any case, I believe this really would be a judgment on a society. But it has nothing to do with — for example — Elizabethan England, one of the most masculine societies our civilization has ever produced. Whatever was going on in that day, Isaiah 3:12 wasn’t in the mix.
Because a husband is the head of his wife, for a wife to rule in the household inverts God’s order. But this does not mean that a wife cannot ever rule a household. In Acts 16, Lydia is very clearly the head of her household. This means that she had no husband, but without a husband, the household was her household. Given her status as a wealthy merchant, and the average size of that kind of household back in the day, she probably had a couple hundred people serving in that household.
But Scripture is silent on the numbers, so let me use a contemporary example. Suppose we have a husband and wife who are very wealthy. They have expansive grounds, and several lucrative businesses. He passes away, and she inherits all of it. After life gets back to normal, does she have the authority to tell the male gardener what to do? Can she tell the factory foreman, who is also male, what he should do? Can she exercise authority over full-grown men? You bet she can. There is nothing in the least disordered about it. Bring it down to a smaller scale. She owns a restaurant that she inherited from her husband. She is the manager. Can she tell the twenty-one-year-old dishwasher to step it up a bit, paco? Can she tell the hashslinger to sling hash a little faster? Of course. To argue otherwise is to fall into the fatal trap that feminists fall into all the time — they insist on getting into arguments with reality. They love arguing with the way things are.
Because men don’t usually all die at the same time, and because they are the heads of their homes, most businesses will be run by men. Most corporations will be run by men. Most societies will be run by men. This is as it should be, and I find nothing to complain about. Who is complaining? Not me, said the little black duck. But when the weird circumstance comes along and a male senator dies, and the party installs his widow in his place, I find nothing to complain about there either. Here and there this kind of thing happens, and I don’t care.
Of course I do care when a woman has been running for president since kindergarten. That is unseemly, but let us not mention names. But it is hardly better when a guy does it.
This kind of normal anomaly is exactly what we find in Scripture in the case of Deborah. This is obviously an unusual circumstance, but there is nothing in the text to suggest that it was unusual because of all the wimpy men. Deborah was a mother in Israel (Judg. 5:7), and she was married to Lapidoth (Judg. 4:4). She authoritatively summoned Barak and told him what he needed to do with his armies (Judg. 4:6). He refused to go unless she went with him. She responded that because of his conditions, the glory of killing Sisera would go to a woman, not a man. And that was fulfilled in the heroic actions of Jael the wife of Heber.
But notice what this means. Barak lost glory that was coming to him because he did not just simply obey the word fo the Lord that came to him. Talking back to a prophet, and setting conditions on your obedience, is not the way to go. That was the problem. Barak forfeited honor because he did not obey a woman.
Deborah did not say that the glory of Sisera’s death would go to a woman because Barak had obeyed her first summons. She did not say that there was any problem whatever with him functioning as a general under a female leader in Israel. She did not say, nor does the text say, that there was anything wrong with what she was doing. The text does not breathe a hint of disapproval, and I would suggest that it is dangerous for us to treat this as anything other than what it appears to be in the text — a curious but lawful exception to the way things usually go.
St. Paul bars women from rule in the church. So should we. Paul teaches that men are head over their wives. So should we. Luke teaches that a woman can function in a household without a head over her. So should we. The writer of Judges, without blinking, tells us of the faithful rule of Deborah, a mother in Israel. We shouldn’t blink either, not if we begin and end, where we should, with the Bible.
The third issue is the number of Sarah Palin’s kids, and their ages. This is the one that has the most compelling weight, at least in my thinking. How can she possibly discharge her responsibilities in the home and in the office of vice-presidency simultaneously? It is a very good question and, were I her pastor, it is one that I would have pressed on Palins in all sincerity. It is not an irrational question, but I don’t really think I would have had to press it. In fact, it is so obvious that I have trouble believing that Todd and Sarah Palin didn’t spend long hours talking about what they would do if this, and if that. I wasn’t there, so I don’t know how well or how poorly they are going to arrange it. We shall see. I honestly don’t know how they will do, although the signs appear to me to be at least somewhat hopeful. Despite their problems, the family appears to be tightly-knit. Their oldest son is now in the army, and off on his own. Their second is going to be married soon. That leaves three.
In that context, I need to say that I am not quite sure how to bring up the next point. Americans are uncomfortable with “aristocracy,” with those who can afford servants. But if she is elected, like it or not, Sarah Palin will then be in that class. As she made apparent in her speech last night, when she told us how she let the cook go so that she, the governor, could cook the meals instead, she probably won’t like having servants around any more than a bunch of her critics like her having them around. But she will still have them, and if she organizes her life with her priorities remaining with her family, as she ought to, then it is not necessary to hold dogmatically that the family has to turn out a train wreck because of this. Could be, but we don’t know yet, and we can’t know without a good more information.
Think that is enough for now? But there will be more later.
Dear James,
Thank you so much for sharing this post here – and I know these were the words of Mr. Wilson.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this as well.
To be honest I am very deeply saddened by what I am reading on Christian blogs about Mrs. Palin.
As a mother of 10 blessings — and I know Stacy would agree — being a mom is a FULL time job! It leaves us great joy and we are also so tired at the end of the day.
I am sure Mrs. Palin has her hands more than full. I do not advocate leaving children behind and heading off to the work place.
I also do not advocate “throwing stones” and that is what I believe is happening in the Christian community. I believe many many are throwing stones.
The bible is clear on the role of women – but as was stated above, God has made exceptions. I also love the story of Esther, whose strength and committment to her people and Lord saved a nation.
It is not the “norm” for women to be in the “front lines” sort of speak ~~ but there is some evidences of this exception found in the bible.
We, as Christians I feel need to be ever so careful with this issue and Mrs. Palin.
We need to be very careful we do not throw the stones…. as the Jews were so eager to do with the woman found in adultery.
Our Lord clearly told us to avoid judging one another.
We do not know if the Lord has called Mrs. Palin for such a time as this ~~ only the Lord and time will tell.
Until then, it would behoove us as Christians to be careful to use scripture to show that the biblical role of women has been to be a keeper at home and under the headship of her husband.
I just become concerned when I read so much self righteous remarks coming from those who profess to know the lord and yet throw out His counsel and command to “not judge”.
It is a very fine line to walk indeed.
God bless you & your lovely family~
gloria
By: gloria on September 6, 2008
at 1:57 am
I don’t know, I may be ignorant… I probably am. But, just because I disagree with her choices does NOT mean that I judge her for those choices. I just get nervous any time a woman steps out above a man because I’ve been there, done that, seen the trouble it can cause- and don’t want to go back. I *KNOW* that there are exceptions to the norm. I don’t discredit Lydia, Deborah, Esther… they were amazing women that God used for His purpose. (And I believe the Lord uses women for His purpose all the time… just as He uses men…) Yet, to just “assume” that perhaps Palin is “one of those exceptions”… why HER as the exception? Why not Hilary as the exception? (Not that I believe in a single thing that she represents!!!) What makes it right to “assume” that perhaps Palin is one of those exceptions? I realize this wasn’t “your” post- but I just don’t understand what the “exception” rule is all about. And why it is okay to consider that someone may be an exception just because we like her? (Remember, God used evil men to fulfill His purposes too!)
From what I know of her, I like Sarah Palin. She seems to be an honorable woman- someone I wouldn’t mind being friends with… there’s just “more to it” for me. I have three special needs children- and I KNOW first hand the work they require. All three of my children have genetic “syndromes”- each requiring something different, and one has cerebral palsy on top of that. Maybe she’s super woman, I don’t know— but I just don’t see how you can be devoted to the great needs of this country while still being 100% there for your family. I’m not saying she wouldn’t be great in the White House- or that she wouldn’t be great for our country. In fact, I think she would do great things for our country with the right congress backing her up. But, the fact remains- that she has other responsibilites right now. If she were running in 20 years… I don’t know that it would be such an issue with as many as it is now. If I were going to vote for McCain- I wouldn’t change my vote just because of Palin. Nor would I choose to vote for McCain just because of Palin. (But since I’m still praying through my decision… neither applies right now.)
The biggest thing that still confuses me is this… there is so much going on about Sarah Palin right now. I realize that McCain and Palin are a “team”- and it is possible that IF something were to happen to McCain, Palin would take over… but really, are we voting for a President, or for a Vice President? The other thing that people seem to miss is that we need a good congress. So much is going on about the President (which IS a big deal)- but I hope people are not forgetting that their vote for their Senate and House representatives is also very important! I hope that we do not get so wrapped up in “Palin” that we forget the bigger picture.
By: Brandy Lynn on September 6, 2008
at 5:12 am
P.S. I forgot to say Happy Honeymooning!!!
By: Brandy Lynn on September 6, 2008
at 2:14 pm
Sigh…I have spent far too much time wondering and worrying about this. It has been mentally draining on me, but for some reason I can’t let it go. I enjoyed reading your post and the two responses to it. I am trying to have a Biblically balanced view to all of this, but it just causes my mother heart to cry out. I’m trying so hard to check my emotions at the door, but it I can’t seem to. I keep thinking about the examples where God used women in the Bible. Do we know if these women had small children in the home?
Most of the example that I can think of where women with small children worked (and I’m not talking CEO work here) worked out of the home alongside their children. Also, there is that major point that she would be placing herself under another man for most of her day. I’m just so sad that many keepers at home have embraced this so quickly because she has a large family, a special needs child, and is pro-life. I read an interesting blog this morning entitled “Just a Little Bit of Feminism” that struck to the heart of things.
http://vaughnshire.com/2008/09/05/just-a-lil-bit-of-feminism/
Looking forward to reading your views as well as Stacy’s if she so chooses to share them. It is such a touchy sensitive issue that I have kept most of my thoughts in my head.
I feel like I’m wasting too much time worrying about this and that I just need to not worry about it and mind my own business, but at the same time I think it is somehow a big mistake that will only serve to further the attack on the family.
Sigh…
By: Laura on September 6, 2008
at 3:12 pm
A very interesting perspective, and I’m glad to have read it. I’ll continue to think through Wilson’s first two points, but his third point addresses a question built on pragmatics and not on principle.
The Titus biblical principle is that women are admonished to be keepers at home, irrespective of how the children can be sufficiently nourished in their absence. Palin’s beliefs and example teach, and encourage our youth to believe, that a woman isn’t restricted by this; she may aspire to the great heights of her individualistic calling.
But considering the pragmatics of Wilson’s question: can she handle both the vice presidency and being a mom at the same time? A person could reasonably consider her daughter’s teenage pregnancy to be the fruit of her attempt to be governor and mom at the same time. Wilson warns against expecting a trainwreck. As a mother of a daughter, and as a sympathizer of the family, I’d say that the train already derailed.
By: Pamela on September 6, 2008
at 3:19 pm
I’ve thought over Wilson’s second question regarding headship, and in what sphere(s) that headship is required.
His contemporary analogy of the widow who inherited her husband’s estate is not comparable to Palin’s situation. The key word in his example is “inherits”: the duties of running the estate was delegated to her by her husband upon his death, so her authority to manage the assets is established under his jurisdiction. The same can be said for the widow running her husband’s business.
We don’t know how Lydia aquired such a successful business. It may have been under similar circumstancs as the examples he gave, and it may not have. But given the societal structure of her culture, it’s highly unlikely that did it without the blessing of a male head of household at some point.
Regardless, Lydia’s circumstance and Palin’s candidacy are not at all comparable. Unless Wilson wishes to argue that politics is a business?
One on hand, a woman receives the authority from someone jurisdictionally above her, and he instructs her how to conduct business consistent with his good character.
On the other hand, a woman seeks greater authority from those who would be jurisdictionally below her, and she makes decisions for them on how they must conduct their businesses.
It’s upside down, isn’t it?
For now I’ll keep an open mind regarding Deborah. Her case is less readily understood.
As a side note, it is regrettable that Wilson should use an ethnic name so flippantly and to no purpose. So many negative stereotypes can be read into that careless use, whether he believes them or not. Surely we Christians can be more gracious than that.
By: Pamela on September 6, 2008
at 4:29 pm
Mr. McDonald,
Thank you for these posts in times like these.
Blessings to you and your family
By: Jessie on September 7, 2008
at 2:35 am
Hi all,
Stacy and I are still enjoying one another. We will be away for most of next week. I will not be able to do much here for a while. Should I have a few minutes, I will try to give you my perspective on your thoughts and questions. In the interim, know the Lord is at work and that He is in control.
Blessings,
By: James McDonald on September 7, 2008
at 3:34 am