Posted by: James McDonald | November 7, 2007

Searching for the Missing “pink” Link

Titus 2:4-5: [Older women should] admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed. 

We’ve all heard stories of scientists striving to find the “missing link,” the remains of some creature that connects modern man with the chimpanzee. Many of these stories are so far-fetched they’re humorous, such as the story of the “Heidelberg Man” whose ape-like shape was manufactured from the remains of just a jawbone. Later, scientists conceded that this bone was quite human after all. Or consider “Nebraska Man;” this “link” was artistically portrayed as a full figured humanoid. But it was built up from the remains of one tooth—a tooth that was later found to have come from an extinct pig.

And yet, men of worldly wisdom continue to search for the mysterious “link” that would distance them from their Creator.

In a similar fashion, evangelical feminists strive to find a biblical “missing link” to support their quest for egalitarianism. They select a few choice Scriptures to twist and strive to build a new doctrine, one where men and women are left emotionally, vocationally, and sometimes physically, indistinguishable and patriarchy and complementarianism are presented as outdated and culturally irrelevant. They attempt to present a new breed of women who are prepared to ascend Babel’s steps to save the world from the alleged folly of sexual distinction and male-headship.

Now, before you get me wrong, let me assure you that we men can indeed behave like apes. We have done a pretty poor job of taking dominion of the earth, stewarding God’s creation, and bringing the good news of Christ to the nations. We have also failed miserably at protecting and cherishing our women, leading our families, and being servant-leaders.

But our failure is not God’s. In fact, God’s immeasurable Grace is the only thing that keeps me from being pinned to the floor with the weight of that failure. His Grace releases me to live out what He’s called me to and His Word shows me how to be victorious in it.

He doesn’t need a new paradigm; rather, we need to repent and embrace the roles and responsibilities the Lord has given us in His Word. As we live out the Gospel in our lives—in our homes; as we reflect Christ and glorify Him in all we do, we will win the lost. As we live out our faith—in real life–God just may bless us with authentic revival and powerful reformation—one family at a time!

To this end, we have described our position on family and gender roles. One of these positions—a position that is under attack in many churches today— is that the normative role of women is that of wife and mother. Here is where the stones and arrows fly. Thankfully, I have thick skin.

The evangelical feminists scour the Word, trying desperately to fit square blocks in round holes, to somehow prove that the clear prescripts of Scripture are invalid today. They look for that ever-missing link.

Meet the alleged poster women for an alternative career path…

Ruth–A farm hand (Ruth 2:7). Hardly! This was not a woman working in agriculture by choice. This was a widow striving to glean leftover grain so that she and her mother-in-law did not starve.

Deborah–A judge (Judges 4:4-6). Yes, she was a judge. But God’s Word tells us that women ruling in places of authority are a curse upon a land (Isaiah 3:12). The men of Israel had turned their backs on Jehovah. The whole Book of Judges chronicles the apostasy and rebellion of the men of Israel (Judges 2:11-23). Maybe it is time for Hillary after all!

[Editorial clarification - I am not equating godly Deborah with Hillary Clinton. God was indeed gracious to give rebellious Israel a godly leader. But this was still a curse on the land, albeit a gracious curse. Note John Calvin on this issue: "If any one bring forward, by way of objection, Deborah (Judges 4:4) and others of the same class, of whom we read that they were at one time appointed by the command of God to govern the people, the answer is easy. Extraordinary acts done by God do not overturn the ordinary rules of government, by which he intended that we should be bound. Accordingly, if women at one time held the office of prophets and teachers, and that too when they were supernaturally called to it by the Spirit of God, He who is above all law might do this; but, being a peculiar case, this is not opposed to the constant and ordinary system of government."]

Lydia–The businesswoman (Acts 16:14). She was the first convert in Europe and was an Asian business woman. She obviously did not grow up in a covenantal home. She was outside the people of God (the Jews). Is it any wonder she made a living outside the prescriptive will of the Lord? Yet, she is held up a hero by evangelical feminists.

Phoebe–The deaconess (Romans 16:1). Again, she was most likely a Gentile convert. Many scholars see her as possibly being a “widow indeed” (1 Timothy 5). Her listing in Romans 16 does not mean she had never been a wife and/or a mother. As we see, a “widow indeed” can and should serve the church and has a unique calling in this stage of her life. Still, she is not an “independent woman” purposing to live apart from family and “do her own thing.” She is a tried and true servant of the church.

Mary (Romans 16:6)–see Phoebe above. There is not enough information to suggest anything but the normative role for her.

Mary Magdalene–Possibly an ex-harlot (according to church history – see comment below) but certainly a demoniac (Luke 8:2). She certainly shouldn’t be an example of egalitarian bliss. Before Christ’s gracious touch, she may have lived a life of sexual exploitation and sin. Not much of a model for our daughters – but a sister in the Lord, nonetheless. Mary Magdalene was another sinner saved by Grace, just like me, but she should not be held up as an example for women’s roles.

Susanna–A demoniac (Luke 8:3). Not much is known about her, except she appears to be one who the Lord delivered from demonic possession or infirmities. Again, a picture of God’s grace, but not a role model for our daughters.

Dorcas – A who-knows-what (Acts 9). All we know is that she was a disciple of Christ, known for good works and charitable deeds. She died and was placed in an upper room. She was raised by Peter who presented her to the “saints and widows.” Could she have been a widow herself? Not much else is known of her. There is no reason for us to believe she was an “independent woman.”

Euodia and Syntyche–Lawyers, maybe (Philippians 4:2-3)? Or, perhaps, Philippian boxers? We know nothing of these women except they were Christian women who were contentious and in some sort of quarrel. Good thing their conflict took place before the age of blogs. Again, the text does not give us any indication of where they lived – or with whom (brother, son, family, etc.)

Of all the 162 named women in the Bible, this is the list commonly given to support egalitarian claims. So, when we look at the statistics and the examples, we find that most of the named women in the Word of God followed the normative track of being wives and mothers, the same prescript found in Genesis 3, Titus 2, 1 Timothy 5, and Proverbs 31 –a short list.

And, after running out of named individuals in the Word, some turn to these examples:

The Hebrew Seamstresses (Exodus 35:25 -26) – This section of Scripture does not talk about those with shops outside their homes. The Hebrews were on their 40-year walk through the desert. These were gifted women who were bringing offerings to the new Tabernacle! Would that all men and women give their gifts and talents to the service of the Lord!

The Warning of the Prophet (1 Samuel 8:13) – This is not a blessing – it is a curse! Samuel is warning God’s covenant people that if they insist on having a king, he will take their daughters for his service!

1 Samuel 8:13-14: He will take your daughters to be perfumers, cooks, and bakers. And he will take the best of your fields, your vineyards, and your olive groves, and give them to his servants…

Hardly a proof text for daughters leaving the guidance and protection of family; nor is it a primary external call for women. In fact, it sounds more like the draft or a warning of “Look out—you might just get what you ask for!” One of my favorite Rabbi’s once said, “May the Lord bless and keep the Czar…far away from us!”

The Proverbs 31 Woman (Proverbs 31:10-31) – What a woman! Sounds like my wife! There is no doubt this is a gifted lady, and one that all women should strive to emulate. But note two quick things – she is first a wife and a mother—a faithful keeper of her home. She does not neglect her household to make a name for herself—in fact we learn in this chapter that she “makes a name for her husband” (Proverbs 31:23) and her husband and children in turn, rise up and call her blessed (Proverbs 31:28)! Additionally, there are different seasons in a woman’s life when being involved in activities outside the home are more possible. Most scholars see the Proverbs 31 description as spanning a lifetime. This makes more sense to me. In addition, a godly keeper at home is not chained to her home, but she is a home-centered woman, industrious, passionate, strong, hard-working, and happily under the authority of her husband—she is not a career woman.

As we consider the future of our daughters, shouldn’t we look to the Word of God to see if there is a basic course laid out for them? While I do believe there is a place for higher education in the preparation of our daughters, our focus should be to encourage them to see the eternal value in embracing their unique role as wife, mother, and keeper at home—the normative role for women, found in Scripture.

I do not believe that all those who hold to the “egalitarian” positions outlined above are feminists. Some are simply evangelicals who have not taken the time to study these things out for themselves. Others have studied, but come to the Word with their own iron-clad presuppositions. Nevertheless, it is time for Christians to be counter-cultural, or rather, to be biblical in their study and application of God’s Word. The cause of the weakness in the church that has occurred over the decades is not complementarianism but liberalism, pragmatism, and feminism. If we really want to reach the lost and see the Church create culture rather than adapt to culture, it will occur when the members of the church live as the Bible commands.

1 John 5:3: For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

A quick note of clarification: As the Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 11:1, we are to imitate him as he imitates Christ. Likewise, the women above can be viewed as “role models” as they faithfully walk in God’s precepts. However, the state they were in when they were brought into the Kingdom should not be used as a model for Christian women.


Responses

  1. The Bible reveals nothing tawdry about Mary Magdalene- only that Jesus cast out seven demons from her. That was the Roman Catholic Church that assumed that it was sexual sin and turned her into the figure of a repentant prostitute.

  2. Hi Anon,

    Thanks for your comment. You are correct. I have modified my post above accordingly. The belief that before conversion Mary was a harlot does date back to at least the 6th century. She was indeed a demoniac who was delivered by the gracious hand of the Lord. If church tradition is correct, Mary’s was an even more incredible conversion!

    How wonderful that Lord takes shattered lives and builds them up to His glory! While we can focus on Mary’s past, it is more incredible to remember she was one of the first to see and testify of the Risen Lord!

    This is one of the points of the article. Our focus should not be on what we were, but who we are in Christ (Ephesians 2:1-10)

  3. James,
    Thank you for having enough integrity to state it as it is. I am grieved myself by the modern–vain–philosophy that being a “mom” or a “wife” is a not a position of honor. A godly wife and mother is priceless and she is gaining eternal treasures through her diligent work at home and for family. God Bless all those women who serve their Lord and families.

  4. Dear Pastor McDonald,

    I appreciated your post very much. However, I had a few questions. I understand that many women in Scripture have been falsely presented to us as “career women” by modern feminist thinkers, and I agree with the way you’ve pointed out this error.

    I was wondering if you would clarify what you meant by “role model for our daughters.” Surely you believe that a “woman with a past” is washed clean by Christ’s blood. When you mentioned that Susanna (who had demons cast out of her) and Mary Magdalen (if she was in fact a prostitue) were not good role models, what did you mean?

    If I have a sinful past, am I disqualified from being a role model to my daughters? I am asking in genuine perplexity. My own past is a shame to me and I certainly don’t want my daughters walking in the steps I walked prior to my salvation, but am I marked for life?

  5. Dear Mrs. Forgivenmuch,

    First off, I really appreciate your last name! While anonymous comments can sometimes be troubling, your pen name speaks volumes! Actually, it sets the stage for my answer.

    The reason I listed the women above is because there are some who use their life examples (and the roles they personified before Christ) as models for women to emulate. For instance, I have seen Lydia offered as an example of a successful woman living life apart from biblical headship of father or husband. But here is where this model is wrong – Lydia was a businesswoman before conversion. We do not know much about her after conversion.

    If your question is, “Can the women above be role models?” I would say, yes; in the way the women, forgiven and justified by faith, glorify Him with their lives and walk obediently as new creations. In this sense, they can be viewed as role models for other Christians! The error comes from trying to point out the state in which they came to Christ and saying, “See! Lydia was a businesswoman; therefore, it is desirable for Christian women to be businesswomen!” We do not emulate the murderer, Saul, but we are encouraged to imitate Paul. But note, we are only to imitate Paul as he imitates Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1).

    You, dear lady, can be a role model to your daughters in the same way. As you imitate Christ! The Lord has made you a new creation in Him (2 Corinthians 5:17). Your past before Christ, regardless of how sinful in God’s sight or successful in the world’s eyes, is gone. As a believer, we are to push ahead. All things have become new!

    Philippians 3:13-14: Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

    I encourage you to hold on to this verse and imitate the Lord before your daughters. May God bless you as you walk as a living role model for Christ.

  6. Dear Mary,

    I am so able to relate to your post. I too am a “woman with a past,” saved by Grace, and washed clean by Christ’s blood. Sometimes when I look at my family I am in awe of God’s abundant mercy. Twenty one years ago, if you would have told me what my life would look like today, I would have laughed. God has been so good to forgive me and “restore what the locusts have eaten.”

    My realization of this mercy and recognition of the fact that I don’t want my daughters emulating “who I was” prior to Christ, prompted me to write this in the acknowledgment page of my book, Raising Maidens of Virtue:

    “As I look back over the tapestry of my life, it is easy to see how God used the foolish sins and painful experiences of my past to mold, shape, and prepare me for this study. Along with that, the sobering realization that I was responsible to successfully raise pure and godly daughters in a morally polluted culture caused a longing in my heart for something better—something clean, fresh, and lovely. The result was a vision for our daughters, a vision for a sacred return to feminine maidenhood and purity.

    Most of all I thank our Heavenly Father. Though I wasted my own maiden years, God in His mercy chose to redeem me in His timing and restore what the locusts had eaten. He has given me a future and a hope and granted that our own maiden daughters may shine like a light on a hill—penetrating the darkness around them to reach a lost and dying world. For this answered prayer, I am most humbly and profoundly grateful.”

    Mary, there may be those who look at our lives and see us as “who we were,” but remember the “old man” (or woman) is dead! We are new creations in Christ! Rejoice in what He has done in your life and remind your daughters to imitate you as you imitate Christ.

  7. Good article! Just a note re: Deborah – the Bible refers to her as “the wife of Lapidoth” and states that “the children of Israel came up to her for judgment”, i.e., she did not go out to “the office”, but rather was a keeper at home. God raised her up ONLY when no man could be found to do the job; nevertheless, she remained in her own sphere of duty, only leaving it when she had to. Definitely not a careerist!

  8. James,
    You said,
    “In a similar fashion, evangelical feminists strive to find a biblical “missing link” to support their quest for egalitarianism. They select a few choice Scriptures to twist and strive to build a new doctrine, one where men and women are left emotionally, vocationally, and sometimes physically, indistinguishable and patriarchy and complementarianism are presented as outdated and culturally irrelevant. They attempt to present a new breed of women who are prepared to ascend Babel’s steps to save the world from the alleged folly of sexual distinction and male-headship.”

    While there may be egalitarian individuals who fit the above description (just as there are abusive men in patriarchal circles, yet their sinfulness does not define patriarchy), the definition you gave to egalitarian theology demonstrates (likely well-intentioned) ignorance as to what the egalitarian argument actually is.

    Surprisingly, it’s made up of just as much (if not more) Bible passages as the patriarchy argument.

    The difference is not in who is using the Bible—the difference is in how we are interpreting what we read.

    I have no problem if you do not agree with the egalitarian camp, nor do I expect you to change. But I would encourage you to examine it more carefully, even if it’s only so as to argue more effectively against it, because that would be much better than (likely unintentionally) severely misrepresenting your brothers and sisters who, like you, desire nothing more than to see God’s glory shining bright through their lives.

    We who are teachers are held more accountable. It’s not always fun, but it’s just the way it is.

  9. Good morning Jeffery,

    Perhaps you misread what I wrote. This short article is not a definition of egalitarianism. It is a short rebuttal of what I see as a misapplication of biblical examples in an attempt to support egalitarianism. A definition of egalitarianism, including a challenge to its hermeneutical approach, would take much more time.

    Nevertheless, I appreciate your note. May the Lord continue to use you mightily in the ministry.

  10. Thank you Stacy for being so open. I too wasted my younger years. I have a question though. I am raising three sons. If they should ask about what I did in my younger years, is it O.K. not to give the gruesome details? and still be honest. I praise the LORD because he has made me a new creature and has blessed me with a loving and accepting husband. I thank you and your husband for provided wisdom.

  11. I found your article very enlightening. Coming from the Black community, where the majority of our women work outside the home, married or not, I am constantly faced with the consternation that comes from my belief that a woman’s most noble calling is that of a wife and mother. I really wish there was a voice in our churches willing to stand up for the Biblical standards of homes and families.

  12. Hi Terry,

    Praise the Lord for your stand! And also, please know, being counter-cultural and striving to live as you see the Word directing brings angry responses from all camps and races. We certainly have suffered for our stand. It is very disheartening, especially when it comes from within the church, but we also know the Lord is sovereign. He even allowed Satan to buffet Job. The hounds of Hell cannot attack without His permission. In this, we should take heart. And pray without ceasing.

    2 Timothy 3:12: Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.

    Should the Lord ever give you opportunity to visit Peoria, please plan on coming to church with us! I know you will feel at home.

  13. Hi Lisa. I don’t think there is any reason to wade in the mire and the muck of our sinful pasts, except when necessary to point others out of it.

    For instance, if a parent had been an alcoholic before Christ and then saw a tendency in their child toward the sin of drunkenness, then there would be a reason to describe more details of the sorts of devastation this type of sin causes.

    By the way, I’m not advocating hiding our general sinful past from our children. I just don’t think giving “gory details” is fruitful or wise. My children know that I lived a very sinful life before Christ, but they don’t need to know the details – I wish I didn’t know!

    We are free to walk as “new creations ” in Christ and there is no reason to dwell on the past. In fact, some things would only burden our young children with images of sin best left unsaid (Ephesians 5:12).

    Therefore, unless God reveals a specific reason for describing past sins, I believe it is best to forget “those things which are behind” and reach “forward to those things which are ahead” (Phillipians 3:13).

    May God bless you.

  14. Good morning!

    I agree with you – almost entirely.

    The first point of disagreement is about Lydia. I don’t think we can really judge her based on the little we know. All we know is that she was a believer of God and that she sold fabric. I don’t see how you can conclude she was living outside the Lord’s prescriptive will from that.

    My second point of disagreement is a common one – I actually despise the use of the term “roles” to describe relationships. Wife is a relationship, Desdemona is a role. I am not an actress (nor am I a female actor) who takes up a role when the curtain rises, only to lay it back down with the falling of the curtain. I am my mother’s daughter everywhere I go, whatever I do. I am her daughter whether I am at work, at the grocery store, cleaning the kitchen or having dinner with a friend. It is a permanent relationship, not a role to be taken up and put back down.

    (so, I guess you know one of my pet peeves now!)

    Kamilla

  15. By the way, the discussion of Mary of Magdala always gets interesting, doesn’t it?

    We don’t know that she had been a prostitute. However, that manner of life seems to me an excellent way to acquire some nasty, ahem, “companions”, does it not?

    Further clarification about Lydia – as I read the text she sounds more to me like Apollos, who was a believer but an untaught one.

    Kamilla

  16. another good thing to note about Deborah is that while she may have been a judge, she also had a Priest (Barak) who was her authority.

    Good article!

  17. I have a few questions after reading your post. First, are you saying that it is biblically wrong for a woman to have a career outside the home? This idea seems to be inferred in your interpretations of Ruth, Deborah, and Lydia. You seem to be saying that it was outside the will of the Lord for them to pursue careers outside keeping a home and family.

    And if this is the case, can a woman obey God and serve him if she never marries? It seems that you’re making the statement here that in order for a woman to obey God’s teaching, she needs a husband. That in essence her only spiritual purpose is to serve a husband and raise children. What about Paul’s teaching that it is better not to marry?

    Please support your assertions regarding women in the Bible with some facts rather than speculation about what might have been. And I hardly think it’s logical to compare Hillary to Deborah. Deborah was a woman of integrity. A woman who could probably lead the United States better than a lot of men and even, heaven forbid, still obey the Lord.

  18. “another good thing to note about Deborah is that while she may have been a judge, she also had a Priest (Barak) who was her authority.”

    Michelle,

    Could you show me where the Scripture says that Barak was a priest and Deborah’s authority? Deborah was married, she was the wife of Lapidoth.

    Judges 4:4

    And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

    Deborah was not only the judge in the land but she was also a prophetess.

    I had always thought Barak was a military man? I looked in all of my commentaries and can’t find where it says that Barak is a priest and was Deborah’s authority. I was also wondering why that is an important point for you to make, especially when it already mentions her husband?

    I don’t even know if they were offering sacrifices during this time nor do I know where the Levites were living.

    Also Barak was from the tribe of Naphtali so he couldn’t have been a priest. Only those men from the tribe of Levi/sons of Aaron could be a priest.

    Also, from the text, it looks like Barak looked to Deborah for direction and leadership and not the other way around. I am not sure that “authority” is the key element of Judges 4. Sometimes we try too hard to make everything fit our paradigm when it will just not and will never fit what we want the text to say.

    Either way, the example of Deborah doesn’t nullify, imho, the NT teaching that men should be elders in the church. As long as we don’t add or subtract from the scripture we have nothing to fear.

  19. I appreciate your response, James. Corriejo is correct, however. As an egalitarian, and very much a leader, I have to say I feel extremely misrepresented by the picture you painted of egalitarians.

    I would never write an article, scholarly or otherwise, and paint patriarchalists as power-hungry wife beaters (though I have known a few who were this way).

    To me, that would go catagorically against my faith, because it would not be loving you as I would want you to love me. I do not like to be misrepresented—therefore I can assume that you would not want to be misrepresented, either. and I know that despite my strong disagreement with patriarchy, it would be less than honorable for me to misrepresent your theological views in an attempt to bolster my own.

    The Patriarchy you personally espouse does not desire to promote power-hungry wife abusers, nor does it explicitly teach this. Therefore I will not teach others that you believe such things.

    I guess all I am saying is that I would appreciate being afforded the same respect in return.

    Attack egalitarianism, if that is what you feel you must do. Christians discussing and debating theology is always a blessing to the Body of Christ, because in so doing we are drawn to the Scriptures and have our comprehension of God magnified. I am all for that!

    I am confident in my God—and therefore I am not afraid of arguments against egalitarianism (when it is rightly comprehended), because if you cannot prove me wrong, you and I “win” and if you DO prove me wrong, you and I “win.” If our desire is for truth, not for winning a debate, then we win either way. Whenever the truth is magnified, we all win.

    What I would respectfully ask, however, is that your attack against egalitarianism be made with accuracy.

    Before publically shaming and chastising a large portion of the Body of Christ, please know what it is you are actually against. For example, egalitarians are just as against ascending the steps of Babylon as patriarchalists are. We are just as much against marital discord as patriarchalists are. We are just as much against androgeny (when it teaches that genders have no differences between them whatsoever) as patriarchalists are.

    Yet most of your readers, likely also unfamiliar with the Scriptural argument for egalitarianism, now have a grossly erroneous view of their egalitarian brothers and sisters, if they read and believed your description.

    I would humbly request that you learn more about the actual *theological* arguments for Christian egalitarianism (such as by scholar Kevin Giles or Dr. F.F.Bruce) before you attack, that is all, and then to paint a picture of egalitarian beliefs that is accurate, before you argue for the superiority of your interpretation of Scripture.

    I, as a fellow leader, will strive to do the same when I discuss beliefs that you hold dear.

    In the Beloved,
    JMA

  20. Good article, I agree with the premise.

    But in looking for Biblical role models for women, who better to look to than the Mother of Our Lord? The Blessed Virgin Mary is a good example of humility and obedience to God. Such is the same obedience and humility that we all ought to emulate.

  21. Hi Jeffery,

    First, this is a blog post – not a dissertation. Also, I do not know you, so I did not intentionally misrepresent you. If you were personally offended by my words, please accept my humble apology.

    Again, the purpose of my post was to confront the misapplication of Scripture regarding the occupations of women in the Bible. Many have used the examples above in an attempt to support their position that God did not develop a complementary polity in His creation. I take issue with that. For instance, John Stackhouse, in his book, Finally Feminist, proposes, “a paradigm of gender that does, indeed, draw no lines between men and women as to role in home, church, or society – beyond those required by biology.” (page 35) Later, he states, “God originally intended women and men to be coequal partners in stewarding the earth, without role differentiation, and he has never rescinded that mandate.”

    These types of statements attempt to recast the providential Hand of the Lord laid out in Scripture. The authority and inerrancy of the Word of God becomes suspect. Paul becomes “double-minded,” promoting a patriarchy that was only for “his time” while he looked forward to the longed for egalitarianism to come. Creation must be a fable to some, because to embrace it as literal would mean that the Lord defined complementarianism before the Fall.

    My reference to ascending the steps of Babel (Genesis 11) was simply an illustration of how some develop and embrace a world-wise construct that does not square with Scripture.

    If you can, send me an email with your contact information. What church do you serve? I have a full weekend ahead of me, but would like to continue this discussion sometime.

  22. Hi Kamilla,

    Thanks for the note. Good points.

    On Lydia, remember, I am not trying to judge her. Like most of the examples above, we know very little about her. What I was trying to do was to point out she should not be used as an example for the feministic camp. Her life before Christ is irrelevant and should not be the basis for the claim that she was a “successful woman living away from biblical headship.” So, I agree with you – she certainly could have been living with a husband!

    And on roles, you are right again. My role at the Reformation Day party was Martin Luther. But I was still Stacy’s husband and father to ten children. Again, good points!

  23. Dear Girl from the North Country,

    Before I answer your note, I want to share a couple of verses I have impressed upon my children over the years…

    Proverbs 25:15: By long forbearance a ruler is persuaded, And a gentle tongue breaks a bone.

    There is a way to ask a question, and there is a way to not ask a question. Your tone almost persuaded me to delete your comment. That being said, I also teach…

    Proverbs 15:1: A soft answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.

    Although I don’t know you, I believe you are a sister in Christ and are seeking the truth. I pray you grant me this charity as well.

    In answer to your first question – I do believe women can have a career outside the home and still love God. But, I also see the Bible saying that a woman should embrace and yearn for the role of wife, mother, and keeper at home. To that end, I believe a working mother should pray the Lord somehow allows her to come home (see my article on Sola Scriptura and Pragmatism).

    In answer to your second question – women who do not marry can of course serve the Lord! But, unless she is gifted with celibacy, she should long for marriage and children. As a Christian, she should pray for this. In the same way, a single man should also look forward to and work toward the day he finds a wife. The Lord has said it is not good for man to be alone (Genesis 2:18). Marriage is a beautiful picture of the mystery of the Gospel and should be embraced (Ephesians 5:22-33).

    In answer to your third question – Paul’s teaching that “it is better not to marry” was obviously situational. 1 Corinthians 7:26 introduces this situation as “this present distress.” I cover this point more thoroughly in my article What Should the “Virgins” Do?

    Ann, Deborah’s position as a leader was still a curse on Israel (Isaiah 3:12). Deborah herself said, when confronting the cowardice of Barak, “I will surely go with you; nevertheless there will be no glory for you in the journey you are taking, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.” Judges 4:9 Unlike Hillary, Deborah was a godly woman who stepped up to the plate when men failed. God was gracious to a backslidden Israel. Yet, if there ever was a nation that has turned its back on the Lord, it is the United States. Hillary would be a just judgment.

    Grace and peace,


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